Saturday, May 20, 2017

Flat Chest Maitreya


As I was wandering around SL again on one of my infrequent visits, I noticed that The Secret Store no longer says that their clothing includes a flat chest option -- instead they specifically mention it's designed for "V-Tech Flat Chest".  Immediately I had to find out what that was, and a quick Google search lead me to Valentine Technologies, which designs a flat chest to fit the Maitreya Laura body.  As I've noted before, this is one of the most popular mesh bodies in Second Life, and really, really well designed.  It's quite natural that people who want a mesh body for an effeminate boy character would want to work from a base like Maitreya Laura, so this flat chest conversion was pretty exciting.  I had to check it out immediately.

What the V-Tech attachment does is pretty clever.  It works like a clothing attachment that meshes with your body perfectly, and can be skinned with the same skin as the rest of the body using omega appliers.  So in order to do this, I needed to shell out 499.00 linden for the flat chest attachment itself, and then 99.00 linden (50,00 linden in-game with a 15 linden Omega Support Group membership), and then I needed to find a skin and applies to make it all work.  I already have a Pink Fuel skin with flat-chest options, but I wanted a new skin anyway, so I headed over to Pink Fuel first.  The V-Tech recommends them or Sugar Pill, but actually at Pink Fuel I found that they also carry V-Tech Boi chest converters for The Sugar Garden and Glam Affair, so that gives you four different skin makers to work with.

I decided after some shopping to pick up a TSG (The Sugar Garden) Baby skin, which was, I forget, about 800.00 lindens?  It seemed reasonable, but of course I also needed an applier for the Maitreya body and then the V-Tech chest applier.  I wound up grabbing the one from Pink Fuel designed for TSG skins, but TSG also had boi chest option appliers in their shop  that probably would have worked just as well.  I got the impression that the Pink Fuel had four options (regular, soft, atheletic, ripped) and the TSG option had only two (regular and soft), but since I need to match the top half of the body with the bottom half I'm kind of limited to the two options TSG has for the Maitreya body anyway.  I didn't explore this enough to figure out if I could get a ripped look for my entire chest, upper and lower.


Here's what I ended up with.  The skin tone isn't quite perfect between the boi top and the rest of the body, but I'm not sure why.  Maybe because I bought the Pink Fuel Boi Chest applier instead of just getting the Sugar Garden Boi Chest applier to begin with.

However this is miles ahead of anything I had previously!  A Maitreya mesh body with a flat chest -- who can complain?

One thing I discovered, and you can see it in the above picture, is that with the ultra-pretty, little-girl look of the Sugar Garden skin (which admittedly is what attracted me to them, and I specifically picked the Baby skin as the most girlish/childish in appearance to my eye, and with a name like Baby it's probably meant to be exactly that), when you combine that face with the girlish pigtails that I have and a flat chest -- well, the result is not so much a very pretty boi but a young girl.  That wasn't actually my intention, although I wanted a very girlish boy.  Kellyeden has almost always been very pretty and very girlish so maybe I shouldn't have been surprised.

V-Tech Flat Boi Chest for Maitreya Laura

Omega Applier System

The Sugar Garden Blog

Pink Fuel Tumbler Blog

Another clever thing that thee V-Tech chest does is that it turns off the chest sliders.  This helps fitmesh clothing designed for a Maitreya body with breasts to fit better without doing the concave chest thing.  You may find that quite a lot of Maitreya clothing will work for your flat-chested boi.  As examples:


This is a Lakshmi Orla Dress in pink and blue plaid, designed for the Maitreya body.  The chest doesn't lay completely flat but it still looks pretty good on my flat-chested character.




The top is one of the group gifts you can pick up from Blueberry.  As you can see from the first picture, there's a small gap between the top and the chest.  But really it looks quite good over all -- doesn't look weird, that's the main thing.  You can wear it and most people aren't going to notice that it's not perfectly flat.

(Pictures taken at Chelsea by the Sea, Balamb Garden.)

Next question is:  who makes clothing specifically for a flat-chested Maitreya body?

You won't be surprised that the answer is:  not many, and they're the usual suspects that I've run into before.




Fist of all, we have The Secret Store, which sent me on this quest in the first place.  On the downside they develop new outfits at the rate of about one a month (usually for Collabor88), so it will take quite a while before the majority of their store contains items that work with a flat-chested Maitreya body.  On the positive side, they DO create new outfits every month, and they always include the flat chest option / VTech Flat Chest option, so the clothing fits perfectly.  The above dress is their Rebecca Flare Dress, and the red jumper is their Agnes Playsuit, both very cute!

(Pictures taken at the Blind Pig, Balamb Garden, and at Rustic Retreat, DYNASTIC CITY.)



Valentine Tech makes a small selection of tops, dresses, and outfits designed for the flat chested Maitreya Boi.  The above is their V-Tech Tank Top v2.0 - Boi Chest, which can be colored with quite a few different coloring options, including a black and white see-through mesh if you want.  (The shorts are Addams Sienna ripped shorts.)



I had almost forgotten about G. Field.  From what I can tell the store hasn't changed much in at least the last year, although I found a Winter Princess dress with a Maitreya body option, which is a sign that this was added more recently than most of their standard-sized clothing.  The cool thing about them though is that they have a lot of standard-sized flat chest options, and I found that quite a few of these worked for me.  I had some of this already, of course.  ^_^  But I bought the pink Off-shoulder Aurora dress and Posy Scalloped boots in pink above this time around.  The black bibbed dress I had before, that's their Karen Bib Dress in black.  (The stockings are from Blueberry btw, and those shoes I keep showing are Tokyo Girl Keiki Janes.)

Panties!

I found that quite a few of the dresses I was wearing required something for modesty's sake.  The Maitreya body has an underwear layer option of course, and that's probably your best option since it won't poke through clothing, but layers are kind of a pain to deal with -- you have to set it to a specific layer, and then you have to change it if you want to wear something different.  So I went looking for some mesh underwear that I could wear beneath a dress with few problems.





I found some good options at Asteria.  The white panties are their Lisa Panties; the black are from the Lia mini dress with panties, and the red Nomi harness top and panties really doesn't work as well for what I went searching for, but I liked it and it worked pretty well with the flat chest so I picked it up.



These LiX cotton panties come in six different textures (there's a HUD).  They seem like a nice option too.

Dead Dollz has some nice stuff.  The flowered bloomer panties in the very first picture are from them, but they have things that would work better for under a skirt.

If you want mesh panties, anyway.  Good layer-based panties work fine as I said.


Unless, of course, you want to make certain people know you're a boy.  Then you have limited options, but the bikini that V-Tech sells can work well.

Sunday, December 11, 2016

Been Wandering About SL Again


I seem to wander around SL for a few days or a week 3-4 times a year.  Not much more than that -- I have other games that occupy my time, and I do try to write every week now.  Anyway I thought I'd post a few pics from the past few days.


I went looking for gothic lolita or sweet lolita clothing made for the Maitreya Laura body.  It was difficult.  I get the impression that the heyday of lolita fashion in Second Life was about 6 years ago, and that a lot of the Japanese designers and a lot of the smaller designers in general aren't around anymore (ignoring the fact that Bare Rose has been shoving out tons of lolita stuff for years -- I like their clothing but most of it is not specifically designed for Maitreya and is also a kind of cosplay/lolita hybrid, usually).

What I finally found was this dress from Kawaii Tofu, which is also not specifically Maitreya designed but worked well and fit the kind of thing I was looking for.  Shoes are Candy Doll Melissa in black.


This is an outfit from Avid Gothic called Byzantium.  This is the kind of "made for Maitreya" you find more of these days -- it's actually made like old system clothing, maybe even updated from an old design, but with appliers so that you can adapt it for your Maitreya body.  That's fine, the end result looks good, but it's still dealing with a ton of pieces so it's a bit more complex than just tossing on an outfit of 1-3 pieces.

This location for these two pictures is also at the Avid Gothic store.  There's a basement that you can go down into with long winding tunnels that comes out at this little secluded dock.  It was fun to explore and gave me a good photo shoot locale.  ^_^


Photo taken at the Plain of Jars.
In my quest for lolita clothing I checked out a bunch of old (mostly Japanese) vendors, and some are still around, although none were designing for Maitreya (no surprise -- my impression is that the popular mesh bodies were never that popular with the Japanese SL crowd).  But I found t his dress at Lo*Momo, and I liked it.  ^_^  Paired with fri.day Rowena heels.


Let's see if I can remember where all of this came from.  Actually, it's mostly Blueberry, which does tons of Maitreya stuff (I have spent a ton of money at Blueberry lately -- I have 220 Linden in-store credit in fact).  Blueberry Bonie socks, which are pretty awesome, I bought 3 different styles; Blueberry Kyla skirt I believe, shoes are the Candy Doll Melissa again, I really like those, got 2 different styles, and the top is from Vinyl (Azuchi + Vinyl) Ellie Corset/Top.  I think this is taken at the Village & BarDeco.


Here's an example of what I mean by 1/3 piece Maitreya-designed outfits.  This is one piece, aside from the socks and shoes -- the Minuet in licorice from Dead Dollz.  I really love this piece, extremely cute.  I may need to go back and get one or two more design options for it.


More Blueberry stuffs!  This is taken at Egoisme Milano, I think.  Blueberry Lola Bustier Top, Vinyl Military Cargos in pink (Vinyl does a ton of Maitreya as well), the Candy Doll Melissa shoes in Candy, actually... that's about it.





Monday, August 22, 2016

Fitmesh Me




I've done a complete flip-flop on what kind of clothes I look for.  Previously I was using a system body with a flat chest, and system clothes worked very well for a flat chest, provided I could find sytem clothing that was high quality.  Mesh clothing was generally much better looking, but I had to be wary of how much of a chest was built into the design.  Only a very few designers provided a flat-chest version of their clothes, but for quite a few designs the XXS or XS could provide a reasonably small chest.  Fitmesh, on the other hand, would always provide a concave chest on my flat-chested character -- I hated fitmesh.

Now that I'm using a Maitreya Laura mesh body (even though I bought the Slink body also, as soon as I picked up the Maitreya I haven't worn anything else), everything's reversed.  I can't set my chest to 0, that still does the concave thing, but a reasonably small chest works well, and I've discovered that fitmesh designed for the Maitreya body will almost always fit perfectly.  I never have to worry about a "built-in" larger chest, and the look is better than anything you can achieve with regular mesh and the default SL body.  I'm absolutely sold, and now I avoid standard-sized clothing (and of course system clothing) like the plague.  If it doesn't show the Maitreya logo, I won't buy it.

It's kind sad that we've come to this in a way, since there are some nice alternative bodies out there, but finding clothing for them is the problem.  Maitreya has the same advantage that Windows had from the late 80's forward -- everyone designs for it.  You can find clothing for the Maitreya body everywhere.  Usually people design for Belleza and Slink as well, and maybe TMP -- but some designs are exclusively Maitreya.  If you want the most clothing options, Maitreya seems your best bet.

Sunday, August 7, 2016


Some random pictures from the last month.  First two from the Crystal Heart fair/festival/thing.







Thursday, August 4, 2016

Slink Physique and Maitreya Laura -- Small Chest Versions

I kind of do the Second Life thing in spurts -- so I got back into SL in July, after ignoring it for months.  Of course, I've been doing the flat chest thing for a while with the default avatar, but slowly I've tried out various mesh avatars -- first the Utilizator 2.0, which I really like especially now that it had a flat chest options, but which still is pretty limited in terms of clothing, skins, and that anime face that I don't really like much.  I tried out the Kenmono AV as well, but it's got the same limitations.  I tried the CMFF Mbody, and I liked that one quite a bit -- you can't really go flat-chested with any of the more realistic female mesh bodies, but the Mbody was fairly petite and seemed to suit me well.  But again, there just aren't many skin or clothing options.

So last week I decided to break down and pick one of the more popular mesh avatars.  I found that the Slink Physique AV was considered somewhat petite, and I could reduce the breasts to somewhere in the range of 22-35% and they were small without deforming (on most mesh bodies and fitmesh clothing, breasts turn into craters in your chest if you drop them much below 20%, so unlike the default SL avatar, it's impossible to have a flat chest -- unless the mesh body is built that way to start with, as the Utilizator 2.0 flat chest option is.)

I've been having a lot of fun buying clothing for this new Slink Physique body.  It's been a little weird looking for exactly the things I used to avoid -- clothing designed for specific popular mesh bodies, clothing  that is fitmesh.  Fitmesh on my old flat-chested SL avatar would do the crater-chest thing, so it was never an option, but with a reasonably small chest fitmesh is now one of my best options, because it will always display a very modest chest instead of a massive one (with standard sizing, I always needed to be careful of the clothing design -- some designs had a large chest built-in, even for the smallest sizes).  Of course, with clothing designed specifically for the Slink Physique body,  the fit is almost perfect, and you can do some really cool wraps and clothing cuts that simply were never an option on a default avie.  So overall I'm loving the new Slink Physique body.

However... I went to Collabor 88 last night, and I ran across the display for The Secret Store.  I really like their stuff, and some of it worked really well for my flat-chested avatar in the past.  They're now designing exclusively for mesh avatars, no more standard sizing, and I'm down with that since I have this new mesh AV.  But they're also including a flat chest option -- pretty awesome from my perspective, yes?  Except that it's a flat chest option for the Maitreya Laura body.

Is this a thing?  I was really excited for a few minutes but eventually I realized that no, there is no Maitreya flat-chested avatar being sold.  It's just that Maitreya Laura is the most popular female mesh body by a wide margin.  I believe the Slink bodies (there are two) come in second, especially if you count them as one, but in any case Slink has an advantage in that designers are already used to designing for their hands and feet, so there are a lot of designers who design for Maitreya and Slink, and maybe 1 or 2 of the other options.  Anyway, the point is that Maitreya Laura is something like half the market, so it's not really that they're designing anything for the flat-chest or small-chest crowd per se, it's just that most of those trying to adapt a mesh avatar to a flat chest/small chest look are working with the Maitreya.

Thus you get The Secret Store designing clothing for a flat-chested Maitreya, since that's where that particular market is.  This presents me with a possible problem -- as happy as I've been with the Slink body and how well it seems to suit me, maybe I should have bought the Maitreya instead?  I picked up a demo last night and checked it out -- I decided I could get a similar look to my current one with that body, and that might give me more flat-chest clothing options, but this would also be another outlay of some 3,000 lindens to buy the body itself and skin appliers, etc.  So I dunno.

I picked up a Maitreya Laura avatar tonight.  At least I didn't have to buy hands and feet separately.  :P  The controls seem a bit more intuitive than Slink as well.

I have to admit this was on a whim based just on The Secret Store designing clothing for a flat-chested Maitreya -- and they haven't really been doing it that long so there's not a lot of clothing to pick from.  I found that, to make the clothing work, I had to reduce the breasts to 17%, which certainly deforms them slightly.  They look weird when naked, and I don't think system clothing like bras on the tattoo or clothing layers will look right.  But the goal here is to look good in flat-chested clothing built for the Maitreya body, and I managed that, I think.


This is at an art gallery sim called Fractal Insanity in Timamoon Arts, displaying digital art by Milly Sharpie.  I was just looking for a place to pose my character, but the art is pretty cool to look at.  ^_^  This is the Maitreya Laura body, with clothing from The Secret Store (Emma Set, Black Stripes, and shoes from Mesh Head, Gina Studded Heels.  Skin is my normal Pink Fuel Kumi Hazel, Spellbound Solome II hair).


Another store that does a lot of flat chest options is G Fields.  They do not design specifically for any mesh bodies, but do standard sizing with usually an XS flat chest, although some of their newer things have a whole range of standard size flat chest versions of items from L to XXS.  Pictured above is my Slink Physique body with the G Fields Sweet Blouse "Vanilla" in blue gray, with G Fields Frill Shorts in Lilac, Sweet Tea tights that are on sale this week, and #EMPIRE Cosmos boots (totally Sailor Moon boots with a color hud) that I bought at the Crystal Hearts festival a week ago.  The picture was taken in A Watercolor Wander, Lea12.

I like the GF clothing, so I spent quite a bit there tonight.  I want to support designers who go to the trouble of making clothing with a flat chest look.  Bare Rose has been doing this for a while now and has hundreds of outfits -- I've bought quite a few.  But with Bare Rose you get a certain kind of outfit -- usually fantasy or anime themed, often designed as an oversized "one size fits all" approach.  That's why I'm glad to see other designers following suit and designing flat-chested stuff now.  ^_^


This is the Slink body again, Floral Off Shoulder Pullover from Mesh Head, Addams Sonia Pleated Skirt in white, Sweat Tea tights, and those same #EMPIRE Sailor Moon boots.


Same outfit, different top -- Stars Fashion Lynn top.  This is a great example of the type of top that you really can't pull off well with the default SL body.  I think for this one I may have my breasts set as high as 35% -- still small, but definitely not flat.

Thursday, February 11, 2016

Mikunch and Related


In my quest to find clothing that fits a slim/small/flat-chested profile, in January 2016 I came across a store called Mikunch.  I've found that Japanese stores in particular are more likely to cater to small-breasted females, whereas an awful lot of Second Life starts out at pretty large and scales up from there.  Mikunch is just such a place -- a small store with cute clothing, mostly dresses, that work very well for small chested girls or even possibly flat-chested girly bois.

This was also one of those stores that has moved, so the first attempt to find them ported me in to an empty lot.  In these situations I look up the creator and check their profile picks, and that led me to the actual store.  I bought several dresses that suited my desire for a look with no obvious breasts, or very small ones.


You'll have to forgive me, I tend to take my pictures in scenic spots with my character off to one side and I use these for computer wallpaper.  ^_^  I forget what sim this was in since I did this early January, but this outfit is the Mikunch Embroidery min OP, sweater layered.  200 Lindens (for the dress and sweater).


This outfit is the spring onepiece with puff sleeves, 300 Lindens.  They have several colors/patterns for each of these designs btw.


This one is the draped OP w/pocket-T (white).  350 Lindens.  This one comes with a HUD so you can have multiple looks (colors and patterns).

Some of these show small breasts, and all of them are ultra-girly, but I think they can work for a femboi as well.  At least, one who is as girly as mine.  ^_^


This is an outfit using a Mikunch tee shirt (2014 summer-T).  250 Lindens, this also comes with a texture-changing HUD so it's more like 10 different tee shirts in one box.

There's more at the store.  An awful lot of it is multiple textures with a HUD so that you're getting several outfits for 250 to 350 Lindens.  Very good deals.  ^_^

Monday, April 20, 2015

Femboi 2.0


Apparently I did not post this in my blog, but sometime last year Utilizator came out with an updated version of their anime Avatar 2.0 that included three experimental bust sizes -- large, barely there, and flat.

As I've noted previously, very few designers are interested in designing anything for a flat-chested female body (femboi, or young girl).  Bare Rose is just about the only one doing it.  I've played with the Utilizator Avatar 2.0 on my other characters, but when I saw that they had a  flat-chested version of the avatar, I was intrigued.  I bought one for my femboi Kelly Eden.

The downside to this development was that there were very, very few clothing items for sale for said avatar at the time.  Utilizator had a few things, and I found one other inventor called AiTech (Artificial Incarnation Technologies) who had something I liked -- a collection of flat-chested Avatar 2.0 shirts.  I only bought the "It's a Trap!" shirt, but it was worth the money.

Now, the market for Avatar 2.0 clothing is filled with people doing texture mods for the clothing that Utilizator designs, and/or doing some very simple designs of their own.  AiTech seemed no different -- just a few shirts, all the same item with different textures.  So I would never have guessed what was to come.

Fast forward nearly a year, and I decided to check out Utilizator again.  He has more stuff designed for the flat-chested Avatar 2.0 (for all four breast sizes actually).  He also has an updated avatar that makes it much easier to use the flat-chested version or to switch between versions.

(He also has a new avatar out -- the Kenmono avatar, which is an easily-moddable furry avatar which also works with his M3 anime head system.  The body is small-chested and wide-hipped, and a lot of the secondary market modders and developers have seized on this new avatar not only to create a lot of different furry looks, but also as an anime avatar.  You can get a lot of clothing and skin mods and the like for this.  I only mention it because it seems to draw some steam from the Avatar 2.0 project -- if you want an anime avatar, you have two different ways to go now and they're not really compatible with each other.)

Anyway, after extensive searching I found more stuff for the flat-chested Avatar 2.0.  Eidelweiss had a new design that was adapted for it, and some of their older stuff is adapted for the Avatar 2.0 but without the breast sizes.  But I found one designer in particular who has been focusing on making mesh clothes for the Avatar 2.0 -- AiTech.

https://marketplace.secondlife.com/stores/18339

At first I was a bit put off by the prices -- generally 500 Linden or more per outfit.  But each of these is a complete outfit designed for all four breast sizes (including flat) and with multiple color options -- and the design work is really very good!  After picking up one I wound up buying most of what he had.  He also answered a question I had about getting part of one outfit to work properly with the HUD, so points for customer service too!





First off, the shirred bust dress -- beautiful!  I wound up buying this last because all of the pictures showed a version with breasts, and nothing in the description specifically said it came with all four breast options -- but then I found that one of the reviews from the market place said so.  It's really a lovely dress, one of his best items for the Avatar 2.0.  It comes in several pastel colors and several darker colors, but I love the lavender the best!





Next up is the bunny suit.  This one comes with a "bulge" option, for those femboi's who don't bother to tuck themselves.  Again, this comes with all four breasts options and multiple color choices, and includes the full outfit -- shoes and all.


The schoolgirl dress is another beautiful outfit with multiple colors and all chest options.  I love the high-waist skirt on this -- so unlike what was even possible in SL before mesh.


There's a Next Gen dress for Star Trek fans.  Comes with all bust options and can swap between red, blue, and gold depending on where you work on the ship.  (You can promote yourself by adding to the command buttons on the collar as well).  There's only a dress -- no pants option -- but that's fair, because both boys and girls can wear it, so there's no discrimination!  (Imagine the show where everyone on the ship wears a dress!)


This last outfit is not an AiTech outfit; it's a Utilzator schoolgirl top (which also comes with multiple color options and sizes), paired with a schoolgirl skirt from Eidelweiss (there didn't seem to be a Utilizator skirt to go with the top).  The skirt works well with the Avatar 2.0 body, but you buy each color separately, so I chose black.  The hose and shoes are also Utilizator.

All told, I'm enjoying my flat-chested Avatar 2.0 much more than when it first came out and there were only a couple of options for clothing!

(These pictures are taken in zones:  Timeless Memories, Skye Neist Point, and Eclectica.)